“Wait, Is it a Date?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Let us make some sound for the soles inside your home! (It is me personally, the base inside your home.) Bottom society has started to become rather something™ on line as of late! Exactly what can it truly suggest are a bottom? Why has the society determined bottoming is actually just being nervous to inquire about for just what you would like? And how really does you go about determining when they like bottoming?!

With these concerns rattling around our thoughts, requiring answers, Drew and I also realized there clearly was singular person we could choose for a rounded, passionate dialogue about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA the base Supreme. Chingy is amongst the most readily useful men and women I’m sure creating and tweeting these days, so that as a bottom me, i’m recognized to contact the woman my personal chief. Chingy allows us to tease what it means to end up being a bottom, exactly why she detests “smol bean” bottom part society, your body as opening, as well as your human anatomy as

entire

. It’s a very stunning talk, easily perform say-so my self! Kindly know i know that I say “gorgeous” around three thousand times this episode, and I am searching for assistance for my condition. (the problem is actually speaking like 57 yr old white homosexual guy.)

And! Recently’s game involves myself speculating if complex plots Drew defines belong to a movie or an aspiration she had circa 2006. It is hard!

SHOW RECORDS

+ Study Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow her
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+is a summary of all of the movies that received used in her video game:

• 
  The Seventh Seal
  
  (1937)
• 
  Mentioning Child
  
  (1938)
• 
  
  Pierrot ce Fou
  
  
  (1965)
• 
  Black Swan
  
  (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris perform some best work of her career in

Smiley Face!

+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo talk one rest while clothed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

because you need that.

+Cindy Wilson for the B52s is quite hot and frankly? “Love Shack” however whips!

+
Robert Mitchum
, stone cold fox.

EPISODE

Chingy

: I just already been bottoming since I have ended up being, I’m not sure, dating back to i will bear in mind.

Drew

: Cue Rags to Riches from

Goodfellas.

Chingy

: As far back as I’m able to keep in mind, I always wished to end up being a bottom, no, but method of

[intro performs]

Drew

: Hi, I’m Drew.

Christina

: I’m Christina.

Drew

: This is

Hold off, Is This a romantic date

?

Christina

:

Wait, Is It a night out together?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast specialized in usually the one, the only the greatest question in our occasions: Wait, Is it a Date?

Drew

: And, wow, i must say i merely froze up there.

Christina

: I was like, oh crap, I found myself likely to say one thing! [laughs]

Drew

: i am actually quick for the banter, my personal brain simply… The reality is that I happened to be reading over my personal video game records, which we aren’t at however because we still have to introduce our selves. So, i’ll try to remain focused on one task at a time.

Christina

: Focus upwards!

Drew

: i am Drew Gregory, i will be an author for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans lady.

Christina

: Hi, i’m Christina Tucker, forgot my personal finally name for a hot moment, no big deal. I am also an author at Autostraddle along with other locations on the net, a podcaster, a allows gay black girl. That’s type of it, dog, that’s me personally.

Drew

: I adore it. Okay, now we-

Christina

: Now the overall game.

Drew

: Can we have fun with the game?

Christina

: Can we get right to the game? I could reveal’re thrilled, I will tell you’re just vibrating.

Drew

: Thus, I’ve been maintaining a dream record since 2007, as well as the idea for this video game is-

Christina

: I did not understand this about yourself!

Drew

: Yes, it’s not as up-to-date now, we always jot down all my personal desires and now it’s only if anything truly sticks. But, the premise within this video game is, am we explaining the plot of an aspiration I got when I was actually an adolescent, or was we explaining the plot of a movie that I liked as I had been a teenager?

Christina

: Oh child, ok.

Drew

: So, the way in which it’ll go is we’ll always describe it an aspiration plus in initial individual. So, if it was

Superstar Wars,

I’d resemble, I’m in area and I’m battling as an element of a rebellion, and there’s a bad  man that’s wearing a black colored robot match and it also turns out he is my father. That’s how I’ll explain it, the manner by which we describe dreams, but sometimes it would be an aspiration, often it’ll end up being from a movie. Prepared?

Christina

: I’m something, I am not sure that I’m prepared, but let us rock. Why don’t we see what I can perform right here.

Drew

: Okay, i am on a coastline and that I see this weird guy wearing black. He informs me which he’s Death therefore can take advantage of a-game to determine basically reside or if he requires myself. I find a way to escape, but almost everywhere I-go, folks are ill and that I feel just like Death remains after me.The only happy component is when I meet a theater troupe and they’re lots of fun.

Christina

: This,In my opinion, is actually a dream.

Drew

: This would be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.

Christina

: this is exactly going to be a genuine gotcha on CT’s traditional motion picture information, because what I realize that Drew, in your adolescence, had not been carrying out ended up being viewing films that I’m going to identify. Now, i am sort of wanting that I’ve seen do not require. I believe that’ll be more fun in my situation.

Drew

: the 2nd one, I’m meeting with my loved ones several Italian US gangsters. One of the gangsters requires that we give more than some money, but my family and that I was able to avoid. We hightail it through all this snowy landscapes, on the way we meet an actress and relate with this lady. We result in a suburb. I do believe we are going to begin a fresh existence with each other until she requires us to a large mansion, and that I recognize it is one of the gangster. It actually was all a trap, the gangster comes so there’s a confrontation. I kill him, the fantasy stops making use of the actress performing a musical number.

Christina

: Is this a film?

Drew

: this will be an aspiration I’d in 2008.

Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, I guess i must just remember that , its 2000, it really is old-school Drew head. That is what i need to remember.

Drew

: additionally like, just what flicks had been we watching at the time and how much did that impact my personal fantasies?

Christina

: Well, yeah, clearly a lot!

Drew

: a great fact is that I became actually, i did not integrate this because I thought this could provide out, nevertheless gangster was actually Tony Soprano because I became enjoying

The Sopranos

in 2008. So, which is a great little fact. Okay, next one, You will find a significant assignment, but this hot lady appears and begins distracting myself. I would like to be with her, but I also really should get could work completed, thus I inform her to leave. She keeps following me personally. Suddenly, a leopard looks inside my place and I have to spend the remainder of the fantasy attempting to capture the leopard. I’m nonetheless really nervous, We never ever complete might work, but at the very least your ex is actually hot.

Christina

: This has to be a dream you have, it has to be a Drew dream.

Drew

: This is Howard Hawks’

Bringing-up Baby

from 1938.

Christina

: No, but that is a dream of yours, that’s the many Drew dream i have have you ever heard. Today at this point, i am merely going to be rewriting movie record, to match my whims.

Drew

: Great, I love that. Okay, i am at an event and I cannot love anyone there. Ultimately, I see this lady, I used to have a crush on so we opt to keep collectively. We go to the woman residence, but are chased off through this selection of men that are wanting to kill the lady. We find yourself on a beach also it seems like we’re going to end up being okay before men select united states. She ends up getting into this additional man, thus I grab cartoonish dynamite and determine to strike myself personally up

Christina

: Film.

Drew

: this will be! It is Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot le Fou

, from 1965.

Christina

: have-not observed, but that feels like a ding dang movie for me.

Drew

: Great, I adore it. There’s a narration explaining a strange boat like structure which is impossible to wreck. I am going on a retreat nearby the structure, the refuge is sort of movie theater associated, sort of religious. You will find a crush about this girl in the refuge, but she’s a boyfriend. Amid the shows and traditions, there’s lots of crisis between me and this also girl and her sweetheart, it stops beside me alone. There have been a sequence revealing that ship construction is actually impossible to destroy because a mechanical arm fixes it inside night.

Christina

: which can be anything in a lot of methods, I’m going to state flick again, then?

Drew

: its an aspiration from 2011, that performed have narration from somebody else, you know, it happens!

Christina

: This is really great promo having an aspiration journal, because I feel adore it might possibly be enjoyable easily could remember my aspirations this way.

Drew

: no body likes once you explain your own dreams in their eyes. I do though, and I also’m the pal, when you would you like to jot down your own ambitions and tell me, i might like to read about all of them.

Christina

: Okay, which is very nice to listen.

Drew

: I have two even more.

Christina

: Okay.

Drew

: i am in a beautiful yard with a team of friends, we-all seem to be awakening from getting drugged. We’re obligated to shower in an acid that drains pigment and now we become blond and blue-eyed. The individuals in control start training united states to kill, as it happens this place is operated by a crazy dictator, we resist obtaining totally brainwashed. There is this girl indeed there i’ve a crush on and that I convince their to flee beside me, while escaping I get recorded and slain, however the lady gets away. When she actually leaves the jail, she finds out we are in the center of a forest so there’s no place commit.

Christina

: Film.

Drew

: that could be one dream during my fantasy journal from, we said, “2007.” It’s actually 2006.

Christina

: Wow.

Drew

: I always thought it had been interesting that I pass away from inside the fantasy, nevertheless other individual continues on. But now, absolutely some strange sex stuff taking place there, and that I’m planning must think about that certain for a time.

Christina

: Seriously accomplish that.

Drew

: Okay, I have one more.

Christina

: Okay.

Drew

: I’ve been given the chance to be a ballerina, my personal mother insists I won’t have the ability to get it done. There is this some other lady inside the tv show which I think is hot, but i am worried she’s going to replace myself. I’m battling in rehearsal, but end up making together with the girl, we hook-up. It is hot, but I feel myself losing control, we get back to the dance tv show. My human body seems to be morphing into something else entirely, i am concerned that i will ruin.

Christina

: this might be a motion picture.

Drew

: Therefore,

Black Swan

.

Christina

: Yes, definitely

Ebony Swan

, undoubtedly.

Drew

: maybe you have observed

Dark Swan

? That has been one I thought you have seen.

Christina

: I have come across

Ebony Swan

, I… Fun reality, we went on a date with one to see

Ebony Swan

.

Drew

: Wow.

Christina

: simply straight things I did.

Drew

: the thing that was that like?

Christina

: Weird, it actually was strange.

Drew

: Do you just like the flick? Performed he like motion picture?

Christina

: i believe, I experienced already viewed it, i believe I was like, “let us get see it once more.” I do believe, I happened to be extremely pro

Black Swan,

as well as straight heterosexual factors, definitely.

Drew

: Sure, okay.

Christina

: And, he had been like, “which was strange.” And I ended up being love, “Oh well, we aren’t planning to always date.”

Drew

: Wow, well I wish him the best, I hope he is somewhere successful. Thank you for playing the game with me.

Christina

: Wow, i am so grateful we went two for nonetheless numerous we performed on that.

Drew

: Not terrible.

Christina

: Not terrible.

Drew

: You Probably Did much better than Elise did whenever I wanted to find out if it was a practical game that may work, and she was actually my guinea-pig. Thus, she merely got one right.

Christina

: Fair sufficient.

Drew

: Should we proceed to all of our major subject of this week?

Christina

: let us enter into it, let us get this unique visitor in.

Drew

: Well, I want to very first say that our main topic of few days is actually bottoming, therefore we could only have one really special visitor.

Christina

: It really is singular individual.

Drew

: are you able to kindly present yourself?

Chingy

: Hi, I’m Chingy Nea, otherwise known as The Gay Chingy. I am an author, Filmmaker, and gasian leather-based dyke muppet. I will be in addition The usa’s primary base.

Christina

: Yes, In my opinion once we were discussing subjects and now we’re like, “We could explore bottoming so there’s virtually just one person we can easily have about pod to achieve this, there’s just one one who is quite practically the Supreme.”

Chingy

: Thank you so much for acknowledging, it feels good to possess your own wonder respected, thanks

Christina

: Yes, therefore’ve completed fantastic work, and here we have been identifying it.

Drew

: i do want to know when you feel you turned into America’s greatest base. When was actually that a word and a label and an identity which you actually presented onto?

Chingy

: Well, so I typically only say, “i am the base Supreme.” Because, which cares about The usa?

Drew

: Certain.

Christina

: Fair sufficient.

Chingy

: Yeah, i do believe that I always really was good at bottoming, but then in 2017 or something like that, I decided to go to a play party that has been just for fem leading sadists beating me up for six to seven hrs straight, therefore was only myself, and I also was like, “Oh, I’m a that is ever before been.” And, I think after that, i recently kept escalating being, wow, I’m thus fun to view. Wow, I’m very entertaining as a bottom, this really is wow, every person which extends to peak myself is indeed lucky. And, it went from that point, I think, following we blogged a write-up called I’m A Much Better Bottom versus You. Discover Precisely Why. It actually was particular a manifesto, it was a bottom manifesto.

Christina

: indeed, can confirm.

Chingy

: And, people have informed me, “its altered the way they examine sex.” And, I like that a lot. It is the one post back at my website that I authored indeed there. I written at

Vice

,

Teenage Vogue

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

ended up being the initial place I penned, really. But yeah, that’s the one blog site to my web site, if you would like look it over.

Christina

: I adore a substantial brand name, i enjoy understanding a brand name, and I think’s actually attractive, simply, brand handling of your bottomy yourself. I believe, that’s really breathtaking to see.

Chingy

: many thanks, I managed to get my very first writing chance at

Autostraddle

because I became authoring getting a bottom, being poly, being actually deep into being a leather-based dyke. And because then, I’ve started to talk about a number of other items, but being bottom part great only form of could be the one through collection of everything.

Christina

: Yes.

Drew

: I additionally feel like you’re a very effective bottom and also in the manner you discuss, and talk about, and I think knowledge bottoming that you’re really active. While, i believe there’s a lot of the queer area, maybe, especially the lesbian society, that perhaps thinks of bottoming as… I’m not sure-

Chingy:

Passivity

.

Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.

Drew

: Yeah.

Chingy

: Yeah, we typically point out that there is way less bottoms than people think are bottoms. I believe absolutely a big difference between getting a bottom and simply unsure or seeking what you need. I do believe those are a couple of totally various things that individuals conflate.

Christina

: i’d need to concur, I additionally think the way you speak about bottoming is, after all, let’s just state it, such less irritating versus way so many people talk about becoming a bottom or determine with bottom part tradition. Because, i really do think just what a lot of people say clearly or non clearly is just, I am idle and don’t proper care to accomplish any sort of motion, task, et-cetera, i’d like circumstances completed to me personally. And, if I must seek that in any way, that hurts my personal emotions. And, you are so good and thus strong at getting, these represent the items that i’d like, bring them to me and that I will rock your own world. That’s gorgeous in my experience.

Chingy

: Thank you so much, I mean, that is what you need to do to be good at simply anything, you have to put yourself available to choose from and try while making errors and obtain damage somewhat, and, I don’t know, learn from it.

Christina

: i do believe that is an effective information, frankly.

Chingy

: i have only been bottoming since I have had been, I’m not sure, dating back to i could keep in mind. [laughs]

Drew

: Cue “Rags to Riches” from

Goodfellas

.

Chingy

: Yeah, dating back I am able to recall, i usually wanted to end up being a bottom. No, but variety of, whenever I had been 13 or 14, I was currently considering SADOMASOCHISM sites and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM websites. Very, I wasn’t under any delusions by what I was about, I became having ladies we dated in high school choke myself down, I realized what I wished. And so, that standard of awareness recently given myself quite a while to know what Needs and learn how to get it.

Christina

: Beautiful, Drew, give me your feelings on bottoming.

Drew

: Well, I’m in fact truly excited to fairly share this because I believe like in 2019 {when I|as I|while

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